POSTNOTE Sep 23: Final post related to November 5 here (Sep 20, 2024)
Related: An excellent commentary from John Rash in Saturday Minnesota Star Tribune on “The facts on Afghanistan from a Minnesotan who was at the center of it all.” Here is the article in pdf: John Rash 8 31 24 STrib Afghan. Rash interviewed Minnesotan Ross Wilson, ambassador to Afghanistan in 2020-21 in the administrations of both Donald Trump and Joseph Biden.
Thoughts about Labor Day: Heather Cox Richardson
Minnesotans: You can see the names which will be on your 2024 ballot here.
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Some personal thoughts before the election.
“Regardless of where you live, please visit and share this website: VOTE.GOV”. Minnesotans, early voting begins September 20. The MN website is here. 65 days to Election Day, November 5. My own view on the upcoming election, here.
Below there are two maps. WHY THE MAPS? People everywhere are a very diverse lot. The United States is a particularly diverse country among the nations of the world. Today and in the future we are part of world society. Each of us has our own network – people we know who in turn have connections with many others. Society is all of us. The maps are simply reminders of these physical connections.
(Here’s a pdf of the above: US Map.) Map is courtesy of John M Wolfson, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons
I am particularly interested in the viewpoints of young people, who are a major voting constituency, but who traditionally haven’t gotten as politically engaged, or vote as much as others. Still, they are ultimately the ones who will inherit whatever government, however constituted, carries forward for, and will affect them far longer, than it will me.
In our country, children are given a pass until age 18; at 18 they are adults, with all the rights and responsibilities of adults of any age.
There is an obvious major generation gap, between myself and the youngsters. (My youngest grandchild turns 18 on November 10 – the only one not yet voting age.).
For most of us, being 18 is almost out of sight in our rear view mirror. I’ve spent some time thinking about how life was when I turned 18, May 4, 1958. (Kids born in 2006 will begin to turn 18 on Nov. 5. 9-11-01 babies will be 23….)
On this Labor Day, I invite you to consider, for yourself, three questions.
- What were the political realities and ground rules when you became 18?
- What are the political realities and ground rules for today’s 18 year olds.
- What is your assessment of what that reality will be 18 years from now, or even more daunting, how about 66 years from now (the number of years I’ve been out of high school).
Obviously, you will have different answers than I. I’m just encouraging some independent thought as you go into conversations about the consequences of this, or any, election in our democracy. I will give a very brief overview on my own view of question one below the map.
Map: Geordie Bosanko, CC BY-SA 3.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0>
66 years ago, May 4, 1958, I lived in a tiny town in the center of North Dakota (see the blue dot on the map). Today, and for many years, I’ve lived in the twin cities metropolitan area of Minnesota 14 miles from Wisconsin. (the second blue dot on the map).
In 1958, I had to register for the military draft. I think this applied only to males, and it was no nonsense. Voting age was 21. I was not old enough to vote in the 1960 presidential election; and the first election where I was eligible to vote for President was 1964, when I was 24.
Things like communications methods and mobility generally were very primitive compared with today. The Interstate Highway system had just been authorized, and the first stretch of 1-94 in North Dakota was the stretch between Valley City and Jamestown completed in the summer of 1958.
Sputnik, in the Fall of 1957, heightened the sense of national insecurity. About a month before Sputnik, September, 1957, I saw Louis Armstrong and his band in person in performance in nearby Carrington ND. Needless to say it was a unique experience. Nuclear was an element of schools in 1957-58, even the tiny ones. Even conceptually, things like “national”, “international”, even “state”, were more vague than today. We weren’t nearly as aware as we’re forced to be, now.
There was not even a thought about school shootings. Drugs really hadn’t graduated from alcohol and cigarettes. On and on.
Go back another 66 years to 1894, what would we see? 1828? 1766? Ahead to 2090..?.
Your turn. Our future is on the ballot two months from now. 2090 is not abstract.
POSTNOTE: There have been three other posts this past week: State Fair, The Forgotten Tribe, and School. Do check them out.
VOTE, and know well who you’re voting for, and why. Whatever you do, you’re stuck with the results.
I plan to spend less time on “politics” at this space over the next two months. Every conceivable issue has been hashed and rehashed for all of the candidates for national office. Most of the national candidates have been well known public figures for years. Most everything else is local. I plan to continue to write about whatever comes to mind, as usual. Check back once in awhile.
COMMENTS (more below):
from Lois: Hi Dick – Amen to your decision about discussion/facts/opinions of political items in the next two months in your blog. I think we all have political fatigue. Your reminder of on our first opportunity to vote brings to mind what Kennedy said in his Inaugural Address – “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”. More than any other words, this has been the most meaningful for me over 60 years of anything relating to elections. From city government to federal, we all need to participate in some way. Thank you for all your interesting chats. Lois
from Brian:
Very interesting! Re: “In our country, children are given a pass until age 18; at 18 they are adults, with all the rights and responsibilities of adults of any age.” I had a similar experience you had. I grew up in Texas. When I was 18 my pastor, my parents, and my government said it was my duty to go to Vietnam (to kill or be killed), to a country that was not threatening us. And l like you, I couldn’t vote or legally order beer.
I work with credit unions. I’ve actually been to Vietnam a few times working with German friends there. My wife and I loved Hanoi. We rented a motorbike and drove all around northern ‘Nam, to the port, to the border with China. Fun!
So getting back to your comment, I refused the draft, I went off to work in Denmark–loved that, wild girls and all, ha ha. And I had a great job in accounting there.
My momma, a negotiator, made a deal with the draft board. If I came back, I could have a student exemption. I accepted. And then I got a high-enough draft number to avoid the draft. I just went to church yesterday. Jesus is about love, not war!
Best,
Brian
P.S. I still have my fake ID where I showed I was 3 years older than I really am. At the U of H even under 21, I did manage to have a brew or two, ha ha! Even Jesus at the Last Supper had some alcohol, ha ha. And when I was an altar boy in San Antonio I had to arrange the priest’s wine and ring a bell when he blessed it! (I did not drink any of it, though). Dad and Momma sent me to Mexico where they asked Uncle Stanley, who lived there, to show me how to drink alcohol. My first drink was a gin and tonic he fixed. Then six months later on the
Texas Clipper [see note below] we made a port of call at Bordeaux, France and we visited a winery and I had my first wines there–too much, but I didn’t know, ha ha.)
ADDED NOTE from Brian: I didn’t see your reference to the Texas Clipper but I can tell you what it was. It was a converted liberty ship run by Texas A&M Aggies. It sailed out of Galveston, Texas in 1966 with me on it working in the engine room. We went to Dublin, Bordeaux, Spain and the Canaries. Loved it.
Response to Brian: Brian and I met on a powerful trip to observe Microfinance in Haiti in 2006.
Brian, yesterday the Priest/homilist was a retired farm kid in his 80s who is a powerful preacher. When he talks, you listen. Fr. Harry preached on the text of the day Mk 7:1-8, 14-15, 21-23 which is all about rules, which the Pharisees seemed to adore. The essence of his message, as I understood it, was about the contradictions within religion and within all of us. He commented about the Inquisition, and assorted goings on since, and the good and the not so good about this or that ideology and the impact of religion on the conflicts of the day. in his 15 or so minutes, no one was spared criticism or compliment. At the very end of his commentary he had a “by the way”, which I don’t think was at all coincidental. He noted that Pope Francis was on the way to Indonesia, the country with the largest Muslim population on the planet….
Our large church was pretty well filled. You could hear a pin drop.
Thanks much.
from Mary in New York: Last evening at a Labor Day picnic a friend asked if I knew of the reasons for Tim Walz ‘frequent’ trips to China….her implication being sinister. I knew nothing but now am curious whether the local Minnesota editorial comment is as ‘suspicious’ as my friend Maggie.
I tried to lighten her conspiracy theory drift by comment that Walz was probably secretly married to Ivanka and was helping her with chinese business.
Granted, I know little but tend to judge the story of being on China’s side on its surface merits…..pretty much above board.
Response from Dick: Maybe
this piece from NPR will help. The opposition research crew is becoming frantic to find some real scandal about the Governor. Mostly what I witness about such revelation in Minnesota is a big yawn. Walz has near 20 years as an elected congressperson or governor in Minnesota. The book on him has been open for many years. Basically he seems just a normal guy, with loads of relevant experience to lead. .